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	<title>Comments on: Fahrenheit 9/12</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff McM</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff McM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that the F 9/11 audience basically consisted of people who were already planning to vote against Bush anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that the F 9/11 audience basically consisted of people who were already planning to vote against Bush anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12116</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just &lt;i&gt;emotionally&lt;/i&gt; naked, Sartre. :)

Please, Werner, do that movie, The Piano Tuner, that was announced several weeks back about the piano and the forest and all of that jazz, not this. Please!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just <i>emotionally</i> naked, Sartre. :)</p>
<p>Please, Werner, do that movie, The Piano Tuner, that was announced several weeks back about the piano and the forest and all of that jazz, not this. Please!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree alynch.  It&#039;s an amazingly brave film with one of the best and most emotionally naked performances I&#039;ve ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree alynch.  It&#8217;s an amazingly brave film with one of the best and most emotionally naked performances I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12114</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herzog has some explaining to do. That&#039;s just weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herzog has some explaining to do. That&#8217;s just weird.</p>
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		<title>By: alynch</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12112</link>
		<dc:creator>alynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to go off topic, but this one of the strangest pieces of film news that I&#039;ve ever read.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117985593.html?categoryid=13&amp;cs=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Werner Herzog remake of &#039;Bad Lieutenant&#039; starring Nicolas Cage?&lt;/a&gt;

I mean why would one of the best directors of our time agree to remake a film that&#039;s not even two decades old, a film that&#039;s already considered by a great many people (well, me at least) to be an absolute masterpiece?  Has there ever before been a great director/unnecessary remake combination of this magnitude?  I just don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to go off topic, but this one of the strangest pieces of film news that I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117985593.html?categoryid=13&amp;cs=1" rel="nofollow">A Werner Herzog remake of &#8216;Bad Lieutenant&#8217; starring Nicolas Cage?</a></p>
<p>I mean why would one of the best directors of our time agree to remake a film that&#8217;s not even two decades old, a film that&#8217;s already considered by a great many people (well, me at least) to be an absolute masterpiece?  Has there ever before been a great director/unnecessary remake combination of this magnitude?  I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12111</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, good point re: the election, Christian. With as fiery and finger-pointing as F9/11 was, though, I expected a bigger sea change. I mean how could people not have woken up in the summer of 2004? Everybody went to this and then went home and forgot about it? I think it was because he didn&#039;t give you enough &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; take home. It was flashy, but not effectively substantive.

I&#039;m ending up sound like a Moore critic, but I&#039;m not, outside of Sicko. I just don&#039;t think he fully accomplishes what he sets out do because, as Craig says, he can get in the way of himself.

If this is to be released next year, do I understand...that you&#039;re conceding a McCain victory, Christian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, good point re: the election, Christian. With as fiery and finger-pointing as F9/11 was, though, I expected a bigger sea change. I mean how could people not have woken up in the summer of 2004? Everybody went to this and then went home and forgot about it? I think it was because he didn&#8217;t give you enough <i>to</i> take home. It was flashy, but not effectively substantive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ending up sound like a Moore critic, but I&#8217;m not, outside of Sicko. I just don&#8217;t think he fully accomplishes what he sets out do because, as Craig says, he can get in the way of himself.</p>
<p>If this is to be released next year, do I understand&#8230;that you&#8217;re conceding a McCain victory, Christian?</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue FARENHEIT 9/11 did have a political tremor. It was a damn close race and nobody will know what helped turn out the youth vote, which was in fact a record. If Moore can stay away from the forced smugness and just show how McCain is more of the same, then fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue FARENHEIT 9/11 did have a political tremor. It was a damn close race and nobody will know what helped turn out the youth vote, which was in fact a record. If Moore can stay away from the forced smugness and just show how McCain is more of the same, then fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a fine point you make, Sartre. Sicko was only a letdown compared to F9/11 and I don&#039;t know many people who expected it to do &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a fine point you make, Sartre. Sicko was only a letdown compared to F9/11 and I don&#8217;t know many people who expected it to do <i>that</i> well.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12099</link>
		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$24.5 million domestic box office (35.7 mill worldwide) is still outstanding.  The production budget is estimated at $9 million.  Despite the drop off in earnings compared to 9/11 it was the 3rd biggest box office ever for a documentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$24.5 million domestic box office (35.7 mill worldwide) is still outstanding.  The production budget is estimated at $9 million.  Despite the drop off in earnings compared to 9/11 it was the 3rd biggest box office ever for a documentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/05/13/fahrenheit-912/comment-page-1/#comment-12093</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was on board Sicko most of the way, but I agree it kind of lost its way.

Often the case with Moore he tackles subjects that need to be explored from an angle that I agree with, but he lets his need to be a provacateur get the better of him. It can make for entertaining cinema, but not always illuminating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was on board Sicko most of the way, but I agree it kind of lost its way.</p>
<p>Often the case with Moore he tackles subjects that need to be explored from an angle that I agree with, but he lets his need to be a provacateur get the better of him. It can make for entertaining cinema, but not always illuminating.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*rolls eyes*

Seriously, Michael Moore. Give it up unless you&#039;re going to add something to the conversation or show us a new situation, like you did with Roger &amp; Me. You&#039;re totally scattered and your methods are suspect. How have you failed to affect change with your massive success, while Al Gore basically changes the course of humanity with a powerpoint presentation? I&#039;m just saying.

I&#039;ll see it because it&#039;s entertaining, fluffy, provocative. But you can&#039;t take it much further than that. Even Sicko went off course, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*rolls eyes*</p>
<p>Seriously, Michael Moore. Give it up unless you&#8217;re going to add something to the conversation or show us a new situation, like you did with Roger &amp; Me. You&#8217;re totally scattered and your methods are suspect. How have you failed to affect change with your massive success, while Al Gore basically changes the course of humanity with a powerpoint presentation? I&#8217;m just saying.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see it because it&#8217;s entertaining, fluffy, provocative. But you can&#8217;t take it much further than that. Even Sicko went off course, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like he&#039;s going to the well one more time, a bit like Oliver Stone, perhaps.

Not to say that there isn&#039;t enough real-world material for a sequel, because there is, but it feels a little repetitive nevertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like he&#8217;s going to the well one more time, a bit like Oliver Stone, perhaps.</p>
<p>Not to say that there isn&#8217;t enough real-world material for a sequel, because there is, but it feels a little repetitive nevertheless.</p>
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