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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hedwig and Dorothy. Thank you and you&#039;re better late than never. Besides, just between you and me, I&#039;m celebrating all week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedwig and Dorothy. Thank you and you&#8217;re better late than never. Besides, just between you and me, I&#8217;m celebrating all week.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Porker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy Porker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m *really* late to the party, but sweetheart, happy birthday!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m *really* late to the party, but sweetheart, happy birthday!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hedwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I go internetless (well, almost) for a few days.....and I miss this party.

Happy belated birthday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I go internetless (well, almost) for a few days&#8230;..and I miss this party.</p>
<p>Happy belated birthday!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Frank. Good to see you again, as always.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s take our neighbor for a joy ride!</description>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16995</link>
		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are there people like Frank? 

Welcome back neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are there people like Frank? </p>
<p>Welcome back neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: frankbooth</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankbooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy fucking birthday! 

Here&#039;s to Craig! Be polite!</description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s to Craig! Be polite!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander, you are truly a prince of a person.</description>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16969</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the kind words, Sam. It means a great deal particularly coming from &quot;a gentleman and a scholar&quot; such as yourself. Your sentiments are based in terrific reasoning.

Joel, Sartre and Sam, I agree with the consensus you have formed regarding HBO&#039;s look at Polanski&#039;s case. There are certainly some scabrous aspects of the entire affair that are unfortunately glossed-over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the kind words, Sam. It means a great deal particularly coming from &#8220;a gentleman and a scholar&#8221; such as yourself. Your sentiments are based in terrific reasoning.</p>
<p>Joel, Sartre and Sam, I agree with the consensus you have formed regarding HBO&#8217;s look at Polanski&#8217;s case. There are certainly some scabrous aspects of the entire affair that are unfortunately glossed-over.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sartre, your last sentence is really what this film was all about.......I took it that Polanski was being &quot;victimized&quot; by a judge who was unduly influenced by media hounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sartre, your last sentence is really what this film was all about&#8230;&#8230;.I took it that Polanski was being &#8220;victimized&#8221; by a judge who was unduly influenced by media hounds.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely concur with your take Joel.  

Polanski drugs and rapes a minor (among other things), he falsely proclaims his innocence, is only convicted of a far less serious charge, and then flees the country to avoid more jail time (he had served a prison sentence to this point far less than he would have received most anywhere else).  

I found the documentary interesting, but what concerned me was that these bottom-lines were glossed over in an effort to present his own &quot;victimization&quot; at the hands of an incompetent and unethical judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely concur with your take Joel.  </p>
<p>Polanski drugs and rapes a minor (among other things), he falsely proclaims his innocence, is only convicted of a far less serious charge, and then flees the country to avoid more jail time (he had served a prison sentence to this point far less than he would have received most anywhere else).  </p>
<p>I found the documentary interesting, but what concerned me was that these bottom-lines were glossed over in an effort to present his own &#8220;victimization&#8221; at the hands of an incompetent and unethical judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel:  I also saw that &quot;simplification&quot; you just brought up, and I must say I do agree with that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel:  I also saw that &#8220;simplification&#8221; you just brought up, and I must say I do agree with that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander, once again I commend you on an exceptionally written, probing and beautifully structured essay.  Your writings with any luck should be published in major publications, and I mean it.

    I have no issue with the title cards, as this film is neither a mystery nor the kind of film that is spolied by the advance telegraphing of events.  I like your Bergman reference, but I&#039;m not sold that it is applicable here.  Akin deliberately uses this device, in my view to downplay the inevitability of events that were part of a known thread of social upheaval.  As you pointed out yourself the characters are central to this film.
     If the admittedly minor issues you bring here somehow compromise this experience, I don&#039;t feel it would be possible to have the reaction that I had in the end.
    Only the truly great contemporary films give one the kind of emotional catharsis that leaves these quibbles in the dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander, once again I commend you on an exceptionally written, probing and beautifully structured essay.  Your writings with any luck should be published in major publications, and I mean it.</p>
<p>    I have no issue with the title cards, as this film is neither a mystery nor the kind of film that is spolied by the advance telegraphing of events.  I like your Bergman reference, but I&#8217;m not sold that it is applicable here.  Akin deliberately uses this device, in my view to downplay the inevitability of events that were part of a known thread of social upheaval.  As you pointed out yourself the characters are central to this film.<br />
     If the admittedly minor issues you bring here somehow compromise this experience, I don&#8217;t feel it would be possible to have the reaction that I had in the end.<br />
    Only the truly great contemporary films give one the kind of emotional catharsis that leaves these quibbles in the dust.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree it does coast somewhat, but because I was so ignorant of that period of history regarding Polanski I found it quite interesting. My only issue with it is that it appears to simplify Polanski&#039;s crime and place some of the blame elsewhere, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s over the top in this respect. I do think there&#039;s room for criticism there though. And it may be that my general annoyance with our whole &quot;What about the children/To Catch a Predator&quot; culture right now might be getting in the way of that. I just think it&#039;s all senstationalized in the media these days, to an extent that it appears to be a much bigger problem than it really is.

I do think Polanski got off very easy and that a regular citizen would have been given a much more serious sentence and spent a much longer time in prison. What he did was just plain inexcusable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree it does coast somewhat, but because I was so ignorant of that period of history regarding Polanski I found it quite interesting. My only issue with it is that it appears to simplify Polanski&#8217;s crime and place some of the blame elsewhere, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s over the top in this respect. I do think there&#8217;s room for criticism there though. And it may be that my general annoyance with our whole &#8220;What about the children/To Catch a Predator&#8221; culture right now might be getting in the way of that. I just think it&#8217;s all senstationalized in the media these days, to an extent that it appears to be a much bigger problem than it really is.</p>
<p>I do think Polanski got off very easy and that a regular citizen would have been given a much more serious sentence and spent a much longer time in prison. What he did was just plain inexcusable.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting and true points in The Edge of Heaven&#039;s favor, Sam. (You can click my name and check out my review if you wish.) As you will see, I certainly agree about the film&#039;s greater strength of human emotion coupled with doses of markedly pronounced intelligence.

The Polanski documentary was indeed somewhat overhyped by certain people; I liked it because it was investigative, with that blow by blow approach, but on the other hand I do agree that it largely &quot;coasts&quot; in the long final stretch.

Hope your birthday was everything you were hoping, Craig! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting and true points in The Edge of Heaven&#8217;s favor, Sam. (You can click my name and check out my review if you wish.) As you will see, I certainly agree about the film&#8217;s greater strength of human emotion coupled with doses of markedly pronounced intelligence.</p>
<p>The Polanski documentary was indeed somewhat overhyped by certain people; I liked it because it was investigative, with that blow by blow approach, but on the other hand I do agree that it largely &#8220;coasts&#8221; in the long final stretch.</p>
<p>Hope your birthday was everything you were hoping, Craig! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yes sartre, I see that the film was indeed a telling indictment of the US legal system (a statement you had posted yesterday).  It is conceivable that a number of people can and will come away from this documentary with a sour taste for the hypocricies of the court system, which often succumbs to ficle media pressure, as was clearly the case here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yes sartre, I see that the film was indeed a telling indictment of the US legal system (a statement you had posted yesterday).  It is conceivable that a number of people can and will come away from this documentary with a sour taste for the hypocricies of the court system, which often succumbs to ficle media pressure, as was clearly the case here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the Polanski doc last night as planned, and while I appreciated the meticulous coverage of the judge&#039;s resposes to all the media pressure, (definitely as Joel stated in one of his responses on this thread yesterday well beyond his decretion, and pretty appalling) and a blow by blow recapitulation of each and every step that led to Polanski&#039;s fleeing and becoming a &#039;model&#039; French citizen.  The film &#039;coasted&#039; in the final 40 minutes or so, and much of what is actually on screen leaves us with a sense of deya vu.  I wasn&#039;t overwhelmed with it, but was still intrigued and interested.  But I know I am in the minority.

      As far as what my good friends Alexander and Daniel have have said about THE EDGE OF HEAVEN, well I disagree, but I disagree with full repect to your position and observances.  It is interesting to note that the critic, whose opinion I value above all others, Stanley Kauffmann of The New Republic, has come down on your side, and his issues with it are the same as both of your issues.  You are in very good company there.
       However, Kauffmann is in a severe minority as you have seen I&#039;m sure.  I found the film very subtle in its presentation of the fate motif............that is primarily why it worked as well as it did.  It was a fascinating sociological study with compelling characters, a splendid omnibus narrative that wisely did not link in the end (unlike Babel&#039;s structure) giving the film added emotional resonance and the added level of speculation.  It is film of deep moral conviction, and characters that are as sharply drawn and rendered as any film of the past few years.  Fassbinder regular Hanna Shygulla delivers a towering performance as the German girl&#039;s grieving mother, and her mourning scene literally rips your heart out.  Within the framework of social upheaval, when characters are usually presented as symbols, here in Akin&#039;s film there is a pervading and overwhelming sense of humanity, warts and all in the fascinating omnibus structure.  As a result, you get to know these characters so well, it&#039;s almost as if you were living next door to them.  Within the multi-cultural design, this is of couse an incredible feat.  
     There are moments in this film that are ingrained in my mind that resonate with the deepest of emotions.  One could hardly expect more for a film.
     Hence relatively minor reservations are really left in the dust.  THE EDGE OF HEAVEN is a masterpiece.  
     (I must get my thoughts together an dwrite a full review, but I still have the Polanski, Hellboy, The Grocer&#039;s Son, etc. to complete as well.........LOL!)

      I hope you had a great birthday Craig, and I thought you would have that exact HELLBOY reaction.  I do largely agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the Polanski doc last night as planned, and while I appreciated the meticulous coverage of the judge&#8217;s resposes to all the media pressure, (definitely as Joel stated in one of his responses on this thread yesterday well beyond his decretion, and pretty appalling) and a blow by blow recapitulation of each and every step that led to Polanski&#8217;s fleeing and becoming a &#8216;model&#8217; French citizen.  The film &#8216;coasted&#8217; in the final 40 minutes or so, and much of what is actually on screen leaves us with a sense of deya vu.  I wasn&#8217;t overwhelmed with it, but was still intrigued and interested.  But I know I am in the minority.</p>
<p>      As far as what my good friends Alexander and Daniel have have said about THE EDGE OF HEAVEN, well I disagree, but I disagree with full repect to your position and observances.  It is interesting to note that the critic, whose opinion I value above all others, Stanley Kauffmann of The New Republic, has come down on your side, and his issues with it are the same as both of your issues.  You are in very good company there.<br />
       However, Kauffmann is in a severe minority as you have seen I&#8217;m sure.  I found the film very subtle in its presentation of the fate motif&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;that is primarily why it worked as well as it did.  It was a fascinating sociological study with compelling characters, a splendid omnibus narrative that wisely did not link in the end (unlike Babel&#8217;s structure) giving the film added emotional resonance and the added level of speculation.  It is film of deep moral conviction, and characters that are as sharply drawn and rendered as any film of the past few years.  Fassbinder regular Hanna Shygulla delivers a towering performance as the German girl&#8217;s grieving mother, and her mourning scene literally rips your heart out.  Within the framework of social upheaval, when characters are usually presented as symbols, here in Akin&#8217;s film there is a pervading and overwhelming sense of humanity, warts and all in the fascinating omnibus structure.  As a result, you get to know these characters so well, it&#8217;s almost as if you were living next door to them.  Within the multi-cultural design, this is of couse an incredible feat.<br />
     There are moments in this film that are ingrained in my mind that resonate with the deepest of emotions.  One could hardly expect more for a film.<br />
     Hence relatively minor reservations are really left in the dust.  THE EDGE OF HEAVEN is a masterpiece.<br />
     (I must get my thoughts together an dwrite a full review, but I still have the Polanski, Hellboy, The Grocer&#8217;s Son, etc. to complete as well&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;LOL!)</p>
<p>      I hope you had a great birthday Craig, and I thought you would have that exact HELLBOY reaction.  I do largely agree.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffmcm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffmcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a bunch of stuff I missed by going to see Hellboy 2 (I agree with Craig - a lot better than the first one, which was mired in exposition and - probably - studio meddling.)

Also I must have missed all this Babel discussion from back when. For the record, I thought it was a mixed bag, with a few terrific scenes and performances, but then I&#039;m also not a fan of its subgenre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a bunch of stuff I missed by going to see Hellboy 2 (I agree with Craig &#8211; a lot better than the first one, which was mired in exposition and &#8211; probably &#8211; studio meddling.)</p>
<p>Also I must have missed all this Babel discussion from back when. For the record, I thought it was a mixed bag, with a few terrific scenes and performances, but then I&#8217;m also not a fan of its subgenre.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White cake with chocolate frosting, s&#039;il vous plait.</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I go, I just have to make an observation. Sartre&#039;s brief, pithy comment here perfectly encapsulates what he&#039;s trying to say. At the same time, Alexander absolutely nailed my thoughts on The Edge of Heaven in a simple paragraph. 

My point is, our ability (maybe yours rather than mine, hehe) to write more &quot;efficiently&quot; is ever-improving. Anytime I&#039;m typing something (blog post, comment, email, work stuff), I&#039;m mindful that the less I write, the more it will be read. In one sense that&#039;s unfortunate, but in another it can be considered a positive adaptation. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I go, I just have to make an observation. Sartre&#8217;s brief, pithy comment here perfectly encapsulates what he&#8217;s trying to say. At the same time, Alexander absolutely nailed my thoughts on The Edge of Heaven in a simple paragraph. </p>
<p>My point is, our ability (maybe yours rather than mine, hehe) to write more &#8220;efficiently&#8221; is ever-improving. Anytime I&#8217;m typing something (blog post, comment, email, work stuff), I&#8217;m mindful that the less I write, the more it will be read. In one sense that&#8217;s unfortunate, but in another it can be considered a positive adaptation. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, sartre.

A long time ago a friend and I had a discussion about great orators, like Winston Churchill, and how they didn&#039;t exist anymore really. I think it&#039;s part of the effect of the &#039;sound-byte&#039; culture. No one has patience for long, well-thought out orations of that sort, anymore than they have patience for long novels like &lt;i&gt;War and Peace&lt;/i&gt;. We live in a world of short, catchy slogans and phrases.

The tendency really spills over into everything that requires a long attention span, particularly films, music and literature that is more contemplative and more challenging in nature.

Which is why it&#039;s interesting to me that so many of the best movies of 2007 clocked in at over 2 hours (over 2-1/2 hours in some cases, like TWBB), and with no intermission. And people still went to see them. Granted, there was usually at least one person opening up their cellphone (and distracting me with the light from it) to check the time. But these were the minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, sartre.</p>
<p>A long time ago a friend and I had a discussion about great orators, like Winston Churchill, and how they didn&#8217;t exist anymore really. I think it&#8217;s part of the effect of the &#8217;sound-byte&#8217; culture. No one has patience for long, well-thought out orations of that sort, anymore than they have patience for long novels like <i>War and Peace</i>. We live in a world of short, catchy slogans and phrases.</p>
<p>The tendency really spills over into everything that requires a long attention span, particularly films, music and literature that is more contemplative and more challenging in nature.</p>
<p>Which is why it&#8217;s interesting to me that so many of the best movies of 2007 clocked in at over 2 hours (over 2-1/2 hours in some cases, like TWBB), and with no intermission. And people still went to see them. Granted, there was usually at least one person opening up their cellphone (and distracting me with the light from it) to check the time. But these were the minority.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16920</link>
		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on that one Alison, I&#039;ve been surprised at times how much people struggle with films, music, literature etc. that is more contemplative in nature.  Impatience closes the door to a different quality of reward, one that usually resonates for far longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on that one Alison, I&#8217;ve been surprised at times how much people struggle with films, music, literature etc. that is more contemplative in nature.  Impatience closes the door to a different quality of reward, one that usually resonates for far longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16919</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right there with you, Alison. I feel like I&#039;ve always been aware of the change (it&#039;s not like this is a surprise or anything), and I&#039;ve actually made a mental effort to not shy away from the deep reading (and that includes reading more books in the last year or so - speaking of which, I&#039;m off to finish Things Fall Apart right now), but when it&#039;s presented in this manner it becomes quite a bit more frightening, all the more so because you experience it in real time. Probably how people feel when they read my, ahem, often long-winded comments, haha...but seriously, it&#039;s food for thought for anyone who&#039;s writing content online, most of the present company included.

Well if the cake isn&#039;t entirely made of ice cream, a generous scoop would sure go well with your delicious description! Wonder what the birthday boy&#039;s preference is?

Guess he can&#039;t say much cuz I jinxed him, sucker! Just kidding, go celebrate, CRAIG...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m right there with you, Alison. I feel like I&#8217;ve always been aware of the change (it&#8217;s not like this is a surprise or anything), and I&#8217;ve actually made a mental effort to not shy away from the deep reading (and that includes reading more books in the last year or so &#8211; speaking of which, I&#8217;m off to finish Things Fall Apart right now), but when it&#8217;s presented in this manner it becomes quite a bit more frightening, all the more so because you experience it in real time. Probably how people feel when they read my, ahem, often long-winded comments, haha&#8230;but seriously, it&#8217;s food for thought for anyone who&#8217;s writing content online, most of the present company included.</p>
<p>Well if the cake isn&#8217;t entirely made of ice cream, a generous scoop would sure go well with your delicious description! Wonder what the birthday boy&#8217;s preference is?</p>
<p>Guess he can&#8217;t say much cuz I jinxed him, sucker! Just kidding, go celebrate, CRAIG&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Flynn</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16918</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I&#039;m one of those paranoic people that has always both appreciated and feared technology. I do tons of reading and research on the Internet, but I also mix it up with &quot;deep reading&quot; as Carr puts it. And I&#039;ve always been aware of how media overload affects the attention span. Television, the Internet have certainly brought about changes. Everything is so quick and immediate, everything from politics to movie reviews gets spliced down to &#039;sound-bytes&#039;, a word that is used a lot.

The parallel that he draws to &lt;i&gt;2001: A Space Odyssey&lt;/i&gt; and the emotional demise of Hal is so striking. &#039;&lt;i&gt;...its despair as one circuit after another goes dark, its childlike pleading with the astronaut—“I can feel it. I can feel it. I’m afraid”&lt;/i&gt;&#039;. Chilling.

Mm, cake. And it&#039;s chocolate cake with chocolate icing. My favorite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I&#8217;m one of those paranoic people that has always both appreciated and feared technology. I do tons of reading and research on the Internet, but I also mix it up with &#8220;deep reading&#8221; as Carr puts it. And I&#8217;ve always been aware of how media overload affects the attention span. Television, the Internet have certainly brought about changes. Everything is so quick and immediate, everything from politics to movie reviews gets spliced down to &#8217;sound-bytes&#8217;, a word that is used a lot.</p>
<p>The parallel that he draws to <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i> and the emotional demise of Hal is so striking. &#8216;<i>&#8230;its despair as one circuit after another goes dark, its childlike pleading with the astronaut—“I can feel it. I can feel it. I’m afraid”</i>&#8216;. Chilling.</p>
<p>Mm, cake. And it&#8217;s chocolate cake with chocolate icing. My favorite!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16917</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Daniel. :)

I&#039;m thinking about writing a full review at CCC, expanding a bit on that breezy one-paragraph write-up. It&#039;s definitely a worthwhile film, full of much intellectual and political meaning, despite the flaws.

Thanks for that article as well, Daniel, I&#039;m off to take a look...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Daniel. :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking about writing a full review at CCC, expanding a bit on that breezy one-paragraph write-up. It&#8217;s definitely a worthwhile film, full of much intellectual and political meaning, despite the flaws.</p>
<p>Thanks for that article as well, Daniel, I&#8217;m off to take a look&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16916</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to, Alison, but wow, if you&#039;ve already finished it then you probably don&#039;t have to worry about what it says!

That&#039;s one slice of cake coming up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to, Alison, but wow, if you&#8217;ve already finished it then you probably don&#8217;t have to worry about what it says!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one slice of cake coming up!</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Flynn</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16915</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fantastic article, Daniel. Thank you for posting the link to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fantastic article, Daniel. Thank you for posting the link to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16914</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jinx!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jinx!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/07/11/this-day-in-cinema-history/comment-page-3/#comment-16912</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s a perfect one paragraph review, Alexander, on all counts.

Craig, what kind of cake would you like for finishing the article? I was thinking an ice cream cake.

And...100!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s a perfect one paragraph review, Alexander, on all counts.</p>
<p>Craig, what kind of cake would you like for finishing the article? I was thinking an ice cream cake.</p>
<p>And&#8230;100!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A hunnert!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hunnert!</p>
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