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	<title>Comments on: Festival Hopping: Venice and Toronto</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. There&#039;s a point where an over-reliance on visual flair is kind of childish and that perhaps this is a sign of maturity.

I&#039;ll reserve judgement of course until I see it, but I remain hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. There&#8217;s a point where an over-reliance on visual flair is kind of childish and that perhaps this is a sign of maturity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll reserve judgement of course until I see it, but I remain hopeful.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what to make of the word of mouth about The Wrestler. I read that Aronofsky gives up his adventurous visual style for something more run-of-the-mill. People seem t omean that as praise, but what&#039;s the point of being Aronofsky if you&#039;re not going to do things that are visually arresting? Doesn&#039;t surprise me about Rourke, though. Standout in Sin City and Domino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to make of the word of mouth about The Wrestler. I read that Aronofsky gives up his adventurous visual style for something more run-of-the-mill. People seem t omean that as praise, but what&#8217;s the point of being Aronofsky if you&#8217;re not going to do things that are visually arresting? Doesn&#8217;t surprise me about Rourke, though. Standout in Sin City and Domino.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Plowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Plowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, that&#039;s cool. I might see it in November!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, that&#8217;s cool. I might see it in November!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for commenting Kerry.  I&#039;m very much looking forward to The Wrestler and I see today it won the top prize at Venice.

I might have a chance to catch it myself in October.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for commenting Kerry.  I&#8217;m very much looking forward to The Wrestler and I see today it won the top prize at Venice.</p>
<p>I might have a chance to catch it myself in October.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/09/05/festival-hopping-venice-and-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-23424</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen The Wrestler, and I am thrilled about all the praise it has been getting, it is one of my favourite films of the year so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen The Wrestler, and I am thrilled about all the praise it has been getting, it is one of my favourite films of the year so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/09/05/festival-hopping-venice-and-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-23359</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Jeff. She&#039;s not your typical American glamour puss at all and it makes her even more attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Jeff. She&#8217;s not your typical American glamour puss at all and it makes her even more attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree, Jeff. She brings a startling earthiness and to most of her roles, and &lt;i&gt;Vicky Cristina Barcelona&lt;/i&gt; certainly had that in spades, while having the &quot;trashy&quot; and &quot;crazy&quot; appearance as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree, Jeff. She brings a startling earthiness and to most of her roles, and <i>Vicky Cristina Barcelona</i> certainly had that in spades, while having the &#8220;trashy&#8221; and &#8220;crazy&#8221; appearance as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffmcm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffmcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I like best about Penelope Cruz is that she doesn&#039;t make a big deal out of being attractive and fussing over herself or whatnot. Her best moments in Vicky Cristina Barcelona are when she looks totally trashy and crazy and just sort of _is_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I like best about Penelope Cruz is that she doesn&#8217;t make a big deal out of being attractive and fussing over herself or whatnot. Her best moments in Vicky Cristina Barcelona are when she looks totally trashy and crazy and just sort of _is_.</p>
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		<title>By: jennybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that your motivation is the Muriel contenders, Paul. Oscar-obsessives like myself are so passe now that Muriel&#039;s come to town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that your motivation is the Muriel contenders, Paul. Oscar-obsessives like myself are so passe now that Muriel&#8217;s come to town.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just took another look at the box office listings for tonight, and I noticed that YANGTZE has fewer showings this week than ELEGY.  So that, combined with the fact that YANGTZE is showing just down the street from FROZEN RIVER, has convinced me to watch that one.  Thanks, all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just took another look at the box office listings for tonight, and I noticed that YANGTZE has fewer showings this week than ELEGY.  So that, combined with the fact that YANGTZE is showing just down the street from FROZEN RIVER, has convinced me to watch that one.  Thanks, all.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up the Yangtze is due for video 11/18/08. Elegy is scheduled for January 09.

If that helps you make a decision.

I&#039;m beginning to think Elegy isn&#039;t going to make a splash awardswise at all. For Kingsley, the Actor category is always so crowded and Penelope gave a flashier performance in VCB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up the Yangtze is due for video 11/18/08. Elegy is scheduled for January 09.</p>
<p>If that helps you make a decision.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think Elegy isn&#8217;t going to make a splash awardswise at all. For Kingsley, the Actor category is always so crowded and Penelope gave a flashier performance in VCB.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda Wilding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda Wilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*rolls emerald green eyes heavenward*

Penelope Cruz...

Give me a break....

PLEASE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*rolls emerald green eyes heavenward*</p>
<p>Penelope Cruz&#8230;</p>
<p>Give me a break&#8230;.</p>
<p>PLEASE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the issue is that I&#039;m trying to see as many Muriel-eligible films as I can before the deadline, and it&#039;s getting late enough in the year that some of the movies that are currently in release might not get released on DVD by the deadline.  Because of this, I want to catch the biggies.

I figure FROZEN RIVER is more or less a gimme due to the hype for Leo&#039;s performance.  ELEGY and YANGTZE are more of a toss-up because I&#039;m not sure how much they&#039;ll factor.  ELEGY has some possibilities in the performance categories, but YANGTZE may be a better film overall.

Right now, I&#039;m leaning slightly toward YANGTZE largely for the reason Joel said- because of the small distributor, it&#039;s hard to say how long it&#039;ll take it to come out on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the issue is that I&#8217;m trying to see as many Muriel-eligible films as I can before the deadline, and it&#8217;s getting late enough in the year that some of the movies that are currently in release might not get released on DVD by the deadline.  Because of this, I want to catch the biggies.</p>
<p>I figure FROZEN RIVER is more or less a gimme due to the hype for Leo&#8217;s performance.  ELEGY and YANGTZE are more of a toss-up because I&#8217;m not sure how much they&#8217;ll factor.  ELEGY has some possibilities in the performance categories, but YANGTZE may be a better film overall.</p>
<p>Right now, I&#8217;m leaning slightly toward YANGTZE largely for the reason Joel said- because of the small distributor, it&#8217;s hard to say how long it&#8217;ll take it to come out on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2008/09/05/festival-hopping-venice-and-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-23273</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are Penelope&#039;s boobs a tipping point for you? If so, go with A. 

Otherwise, C is probably the more popular choice (though I&#039;m on record as liking A a bit more than average and only part of that is the boob factor).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are Penelope&#8217;s boobs a tipping point for you? If so, go with A. </p>
<p>Otherwise, C is probably the more popular choice (though I&#8217;m on record as liking A a bit more than average and only part of that is the boob factor).</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rough choice for #2 Paul. I&#039;ve seen both and my general feeling is you could go either way depending on your mood. Both are somewhat dark in overall tone although Yangtze has more humor in it, but Elegy has two strong central performances and lots and lots of Penelope Cruz.

Up the Yangtze probably won&#039;t be around long, not sure how quickly it will hit DVD (or even if it will hit DVD). Elegy will definitely get a DVD release and probably bounce around a little longer.

But Elegy has lots of Penelope Cruz, which is always a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rough choice for #2 Paul. I&#8217;ve seen both and my general feeling is you could go either way depending on your mood. Both are somewhat dark in overall tone although Yangtze has more humor in it, but Elegy has two strong central performances and lots and lots of Penelope Cruz.</p>
<p>Up the Yangtze probably won&#8217;t be around long, not sure how quickly it will hit DVD (or even if it will hit DVD). Elegy will definitely get a DVD release and probably bounce around a little longer.</p>
<p>But Elegy has lots of Penelope Cruz, which is always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve seen (A) and (C)... (C) is a consistently better (not to mention more informative) film, but (A) has a naked Penelope Cruz in it. I&#039;ve only reviewed one of them, though, that being (A), &lt;a href=&quot;http://colemancornerincinema.blogspot.com/2008/09/elegy-2008.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yesterday&lt;/a&gt;. Craig and Daniel G. also wrote reviews of it, so if you&#039;re willing to brave reading them, perhaps those could influence your choice, Paul.

Hahaha, Craig, you&#039;re right, I&#039;m sure Wells doesn&#039;t want to look at Rourke&#039;s face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve seen (A) and (C)&#8230; (C) is a consistently better (not to mention more informative) film, but (A) has a naked Penelope Cruz in it. I&#8217;ve only reviewed one of them, though, that being (A), <a href="http://colemancornerincinema.blogspot.com/2008/09/elegy-2008.html" rel="nofollow">yesterday</a>. Craig and Daniel G. also wrote reviews of it, so if you&#8217;re willing to brave reading them, perhaps those could influence your choice, Paul.</p>
<p>Hahaha, Craig, you&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m sure Wells doesn&#8217;t want to look at Rourke&#8217;s face.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that critics seem so surprised by Rourke giving a good performance in THE WRESTLER.  Where have they been the past half-dozen years or so?  He was the best thing about both SIN CITY and SPUN, after all.  Even before that, he was shaping up to be a formidable character actor, as evidenced by small but indelible turns in THE PLEDGE and THE RAINMAKER.  Rourke being good should not be a shocker, folks.

Also, I&#039;ve only got one night of moviewatching open to me this week, and I&#039;m trying to decide which of the following I should see:

A.  Elegy
B.  Frozen River
C.  Up the Yangtze

I&#039;m thinking I&#039;ll definitely see B, so it&#039;s probably just a choice between A and C.  Still, might as well ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that critics seem so surprised by Rourke giving a good performance in THE WRESTLER.  Where have they been the past half-dozen years or so?  He was the best thing about both SIN CITY and SPUN, after all.  Even before that, he was shaping up to be a formidable character actor, as evidenced by small but indelible turns in THE PLEDGE and THE RAINMAKER.  Rourke being good should not be a shocker, folks.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve only got one night of moviewatching open to me this week, and I&#8217;m trying to decide which of the following I should see:</p>
<p>A.  Elegy<br />
B.  Frozen River<br />
C.  Up the Yangtze</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;ll definitely see B, so it&#8217;s probably just a choice between A and C.  Still, might as well ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Plowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Plowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously I am stoked about &quot;The Wrestler&quot; raves, and I am so glad to hear that Rourke is spectacular in it. There is no way in hell that I am missing this one, and if I end up not loving it I&#039;d be very surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously I am stoked about &#8220;The Wrestler&#8221; raves, and I am so glad to hear that Rourke is spectacular in it. There is no way in hell that I am missing this one, and if I end up not loving it I&#8217;d be very surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was your post that inspired me to say something in the first place. I was just going to ignore it, but it couldn&#039;t be helped. That&#039;ll be my last review link to that place.

He hasn&#039;t seen Wrestler yet, but he&#039;s already ready to knock it because he can&#039;t stand looking at Rourke&#039;s face or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was your post that inspired me to say something in the first place. I was just going to ignore it, but it couldn&#8217;t be helped. That&#8217;ll be my last review link to that place.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t seen Wrestler yet, but he&#8217;s already ready to knock it because he can&#8217;t stand looking at Rourke&#8217;s face or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised Rourke gives a strong performance in Aronofsky&#039;s latest. These critical raves have me wanting to see it more than ever.

It says something about the Oscars that when actors give performances &quot;too real,&quot; their chances almost always go down. Poland is right about that, though. It makes me more interested in &lt;i&gt;Rachel Getting Married&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://colemancornerincinema.blogspot.com/2008/09/wells-falls-in-hate-for-one-millionth.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;As Craig knows, I couldn&#039;t help but comment on the Wells pan of &lt;i&gt;The Brothers Bloom&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s based on things like finding Rinko Kikuchi &quot;relentlessly sullen,&quot; (despite his love of &lt;i&gt;Babel&lt;/i&gt; in which she was more than just sullen), and character actor Robbie Coltraine being too fat and needing to lose weight. Along with hating the movie because one Bloom brother is referred to by his last name and the other by his first name. Okay...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised Rourke gives a strong performance in Aronofsky&#8217;s latest. These critical raves have me wanting to see it more than ever.</p>
<p>It says something about the Oscars that when actors give performances &#8220;too real,&#8221; their chances almost always go down. Poland is right about that, though. It makes me more interested in <i>Rachel Getting Married</i>.</p>
<p><a href="http://colemancornerincinema.blogspot.com/2008/09/wells-falls-in-hate-for-one-millionth.html" rel="nofollow">As Craig knows, I couldn&#8217;t help but comment on the Wells pan of <i>The Brothers Bloom</i></a>. It&#8217;s based on things like finding Rinko Kikuchi &#8220;relentlessly sullen,&#8221; (despite his love of <i>Babel</i> in which she was more than just sullen), and character actor Robbie Coltraine being too fat and needing to lose weight. Along with hating the movie because one Bloom brother is referred to by his last name and the other by his first name. Okay&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I made Poland&#039;s comments sound more negative than they really were. He liked the performance, but offered the caveat for people who view the world through Oscar colored glasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I made Poland&#8217;s comments sound more negative than they really were. He liked the performance, but offered the caveat for people who view the world through Oscar colored glasses.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre de Plume</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre de Plume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we all should know, Oscar doesn&#039;t necessarily mean the best. That said, I feel that, although Rourke may be good in The Wrestler,  the biggest coup he could muster would be a nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we all should know, Oscar doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean the best. That said, I feel that, although Rourke may be good in The Wrestler,  the biggest coup he could muster would be a nomination.</p>
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