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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks jennybee.  I can&#039;t take too much credit for the writing though as I re-worked the narrated obit from Serendipity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks jennybee.  I can&#8217;t take too much credit for the writing though as I re-worked the narrated obit from Serendipity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thirsting to see where you fall on it Alexander.  Craig is right to call for a tie-breaker.</description>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, I typically find that a couple of Manhattans make most movies, good or not, a bit better so if Cold Souls didn&#039;t charm you then maybe it wasn&#039;t all that charming. I&#039;ll see it for myself and find out, let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, I typically find that a couple of Manhattans make most movies, good or not, a bit better so if Cold Souls didn&#8217;t charm you then maybe it wasn&#8217;t all that charming. I&#8217;ll see it for myself and find out, let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: jennybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too funny, Sartre. Nicely written too. You ever need a job as an obit clerk, I can hook you up.

Alexander. That is crazy. You are not going to have any brainpower left by the time you hit 25. But it sounds like you&#039;re having fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny, Sartre. Nicely written too. You ever need a job as an obit clerk, I can hook you up.</p>
<p>Alexander. That is crazy. You are not going to have any brainpower left by the time you hit 25. But it sounds like you&#8217;re having fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I even liked the part that went off the rails Sartre, that&#039;s how in the tank I am for Thrist. The other bits were better, but I got some good laughs out of the part of which you speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I even liked the part that went off the rails Sartre, that&#8217;s how in the tank I am for Thrist. The other bits were better, but I got some good laughs out of the part of which you speak.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, you can count me among the fans of Thirst.  There was a section where I thought it went off the rails but the rest was so entertaining and clever that I could easily forgive the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, you can count me among the fans of Thirst.  There was a section where I thought it went off the rails but the rest was so entertaining and clever that I could easily forgive the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I saw Cold Souls at the end of a trying day and there may have been a couple of Manhattans squeezed in there so I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve given it a fair shake. Your results may vary and I hope they do.

If you want to boil J&amp;J down to a five star rating, I&#039;d go with 3.5. 

The passive movie watcher in me enjoyed it quite a bit, but the little bastard nit-picker inside kept pulling out things that didn&#039;t work so well and I was left with one of those feelings that it could&#039;ve been a lot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I saw Cold Souls at the end of a trying day and there may have been a couple of Manhattans squeezed in there so I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve given it a fair shake. Your results may vary and I hope they do.</p>
<p>If you want to boil J&#038;J down to a five star rating, I&#8217;d go with 3.5. </p>
<p>The passive movie watcher in me enjoyed it quite a bit, but the little bastard nit-picker inside kept pulling out things that didn&#8217;t work so well and I was left with one of those feelings that it could&#8217;ve been a lot better.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Alexander Coleman-like pursuit of total cinema nirvana.&quot; hahahaha.

Alexander, I love Le Corbeau, but I&#039;m dying to hear what you made of Thirst. Me and Sam have a little disagreement on this score and you can be the tie breaker.

Don&#039;t feel bad, Joel. My list of movies I&#039;m supposed to love but haven&#039;t warmed up to is long and embarrassing. Alexander&#039;s recently watched The Leopard is among them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Alexander Coleman-like pursuit of total cinema nirvana.&#8221; hahahaha.</p>
<p>Alexander, I love Le Corbeau, but I&#8217;m dying to hear what you made of Thirst. Me and Sam have a little disagreement on this score and you can be the tie breaker.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t feel bad, Joel. My list of movies I&#8217;m supposed to love but haven&#8217;t warmed up to is long and embarrassing. Alexander&#8217;s recently watched The Leopard is among them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  Sartre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This one is one of the all time classics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And beneath all the fantastic humor, how perceptive you are!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  Sartre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>This one is one of the all time classics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>And beneath all the fantastic humor, how perceptive you are!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously I will revisit Shampoo at some point in the future and hug it and love it and name it George or I will turn in my LIC membership card.

Alexander, thank you for mentioning Thr3e. I have to admit I kind of love the fact that this movie exists, but only because it&#039;s so absurd in light of Adaptation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously I will revisit Shampoo at some point in the future and hug it and love it and name it George or I will turn in my LIC membership card.</p>
<p>Alexander, thank you for mentioning Thr3e. I have to admit I kind of love the fact that this movie exists, but only because it&#8217;s so absurd in light of Adaptation.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam Juliano, prominent film blogger and creator of Wonders in the Dark, died last night from complications arising from a film watching marathon. He was 54 years old and left behind a much loved wife and 42 children. Soft-spoken and obsessive, Juliano never looked the part of a hopeless film romantic. But, in the final days of his life, he revealed an unknown side of his psyche. This hidden quasi-Jungian persona surfaced during the Alexander Colman-like pursuit of total cinema nirvana. Sadly, the protracted effort to match Alexander’s capacity to endure unbroken hours of film watching ended early Sunday night in complete and utter failure. Yet even in certain defeat, the courageous Juliano secretly clung to the belief that life is not merely a series of meaningless accidents or coincidences. Uh-uh. But rather, it’s a tapestry of flickers and visual persistence that culminate in an exquisite, sublime cinematic experience. Asked about the loss of his dear friend, Roger Ebert, the renowned film critic, described Sam as a changed man in the last days of his life. &quot;Things were clearer for him,&quot; Ebert noted. Ultimately Sam concluded that if we are to live life in harmony with the universe, we must all possess a powerful faith in what the ancients used to call &quot;magic lanterns&quot;, what we currently refer to as cinema.  Sam’s last uttered word was at first thought to be &quot;noseplug&quot;, but soon correctly recognized as &quot;rosebud&quot; – he remained a cinephile right to the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Juliano, prominent film blogger and creator of Wonders in the Dark, died last night from complications arising from a film watching marathon. He was 54 years old and left behind a much loved wife and 42 children. Soft-spoken and obsessive, Juliano never looked the part of a hopeless film romantic. But, in the final days of his life, he revealed an unknown side of his psyche. This hidden quasi-Jungian persona surfaced during the Alexander Colman-like pursuit of total cinema nirvana. Sadly, the protracted effort to match Alexander’s capacity to endure unbroken hours of film watching ended early Sunday night in complete and utter failure. Yet even in certain defeat, the courageous Juliano secretly clung to the belief that life is not merely a series of meaningless accidents or coincidences. Uh-uh. But rather, it’s a tapestry of flickers and visual persistence that culminate in an exquisite, sublime cinematic experience. Asked about the loss of his dear friend, Roger Ebert, the renowned film critic, described Sam as a changed man in the last days of his life. &#8220;Things were clearer for him,&#8221; Ebert noted. Ultimately Sam concluded that if we are to live life in harmony with the universe, we must all possess a powerful faith in what the ancients used to call &#8220;magic lanterns&#8221;, what we currently refer to as cinema.  Sam’s last uttered word was at first thought to be &#8220;noseplug&#8221;, but soon correctly recognized as &#8220;rosebud&#8221; – he remained a cinephile right to the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I did that Alexander, you would be reading my obit.  And I have energy for a 54 year-old man.

But that&#039;s incomparable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I did that Alexander, you would be reading my obit.  And I have energy for a 54 year-old man.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s incomparable.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An entire DePalma retrospective. Nice, Alexander!</description>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Shampoo&lt;/i&gt; continues to hold up as one of Beatty&#039;s best performances in one of Ashby&#039;s best films.

My weekend film-viewing consisted of...

Friday: &lt;i&gt;Thirst&lt;/i&gt; at the Bridge Theatre in San Francisco--the same theatre in which I saw &lt;i&gt;Let the Right One In&lt;/i&gt;, and the only theatre I know of in the entire Bay Area to feature the Korean film; &lt;i&gt;Obsession&lt;/i&gt; (De Palma); &lt;i&gt;Carrie&lt;/i&gt; (De Palma); &lt;i&gt;Mr. Soft Touch&lt;/i&gt;, a weak Glenn Ford-starring light melodrama; and &lt;i&gt;Alias Nick Beal&lt;/i&gt;, a delightful noir starring Ray Milland. I have seen the De Palmas and John Farrow numerous times.

Saturday: &lt;i&gt;Le Corbeau&lt;/i&gt;, which I had not seen in a great, long time; &lt;i&gt;Notorious&lt;/i&gt; (yes, that film, Daniel); the wonderful Kiyoshi Kurosawa picture, &lt;i&gt;Cure&lt;/i&gt;; De Palma&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Fury&lt;/i&gt;; &lt;i&gt;Dressed to Kill&lt;/i&gt;; &lt;i&gt;Marked Woman&lt;/i&gt;, a disposable but okay 1930s Warner Bros. melodrama starring Bette Davis and Humphrey Bogart. 

Sunday: &lt;i&gt;The Leopard&lt;/i&gt; yet once more; De Palma&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Scarface&lt;/i&gt;; De Palma&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Body Double&lt;/i&gt;; De Palma&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Untouchables&lt;/i&gt;; De Palma&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Raising Cain&lt;/i&gt;; &lt;i&gt;Thr3e&lt;/i&gt;, an astonishingly rote, pedestrian knockoff of &lt;i&gt;Se7en&lt;/i&gt; from a couple of years ago (HUGE SPOILER FOR WHO WHO WANT TO SEE &lt;I&gt;THR3E&lt;/I&gt; SOMEDAY): the novelist and screenwriter[s] apparently watched &lt;i&gt;Adapation&lt;/i&gt; and thought the idea of one person being the hero, killer and girl all at once through multiple personalities was a wonderful one. Followed this with a late night excursion to see &lt;i&gt;Orphan&lt;/i&gt;. 

Monday, since we&#039;re on Tuesday now: &lt;i&gt;K-19: The Widowmaker&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Shattered Glass&lt;/i&gt; (seeing &lt;i&gt;Orphan&lt;/i&gt; put me in the mood to see more Peter Saarsgaard when he was ascending as a star), followed by De Palma&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Carlito&#039;s Way&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Mission: Impossible&lt;/i&gt;, capped off at around 4:00 am with the recent French film &lt;i&gt;The Legacy&lt;/i&gt; (thank you, Sundance). 

I&#039;m also reading The Plague by Camus once more and I&#039;m finding it more unnerving than before.

I want to finally sleep again sometime soon but first--&lt;i&gt;In the Loop&lt;/i&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shampoo</i> continues to hold up as one of Beatty&#8217;s best performances in one of Ashby&#8217;s best films.</p>
<p>My weekend film-viewing consisted of&#8230;</p>
<p>Friday: <i>Thirst</i> at the Bridge Theatre in San Francisco&#8211;the same theatre in which I saw <i>Let the Right One In</i>, and the only theatre I know of in the entire Bay Area to feature the Korean film; <i>Obsession</i> (De Palma); <i>Carrie</i> (De Palma); <i>Mr. Soft Touch</i>, a weak Glenn Ford-starring light melodrama; and <i>Alias Nick Beal</i>, a delightful noir starring Ray Milland. I have seen the De Palmas and John Farrow numerous times.</p>
<p>Saturday: <i>Le Corbeau</i>, which I had not seen in a great, long time; <i>Notorious</i> (yes, that film, Daniel); the wonderful Kiyoshi Kurosawa picture, <i>Cure</i>; De Palma&#8217;s <i>The Fury</i>; <i>Dressed to Kill</i>; <i>Marked Woman</i>, a disposable but okay 1930s Warner Bros. melodrama starring Bette Davis and Humphrey Bogart. </p>
<p>Sunday: <i>The Leopard</i> yet once more; De Palma&#8217;s <i>Scarface</i>; De Palma&#8217;s <i>Body Double</i>; De Palma&#8217;s <i>The Untouchables</i>; De Palma&#8217;s <i>Raising Cain</i>; <i>Thr3e</i>, an astonishingly rote, pedestrian knockoff of <i>Se7en</i> from a couple of years ago (HUGE SPOILER FOR WHO WHO WANT TO SEE <i>THR3E</i> SOMEDAY): the novelist and screenwriter[s] apparently watched <i>Adapation</i> and thought the idea of one person being the hero, killer and girl all at once through multiple personalities was a wonderful one. Followed this with a late night excursion to see <i>Orphan</i>. </p>
<p>Monday, since we&#8217;re on Tuesday now: <i>K-19: The Widowmaker</i> and <i>Shattered Glass</i> (seeing <i>Orphan</i> put me in the mood to see more Peter Saarsgaard when he was ascending as a star), followed by De Palma&#8217;s <i>Carlito&#8217;s Way</i> and <i>Mission: Impossible</i>, capped off at around 4:00 am with the recent French film <i>The Legacy</i> (thank you, Sundance). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also reading The Plague by Camus once more and I&#8217;m finding it more unnerving than before.</p>
<p>I want to finally sleep again sometime soon but first&#8211;<i>In the Loop</i>!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notorious. 

Just had to say it again, as I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s come up in the WC every week for like the last month. And I still haven&#039;t seen it.

Back from gallivanting in Boston and NH. Is anybody familiar with Boston, besides k? That place has really changed quite a bit in the last few years, construction-wise. Anyway, good times visiting friends and then a beautiful weekend and wedding at a house on Lake Winnipesaukee. 

On the way back to the airport we had a few hours to kill and, naturally, went to the movies. It was great fun going to the Kendall Square Cinema in Cambridge again. We saw Afghan Star, which was a much more straightforward story than I expected but still an interesting glimpse into contemporary Afghan culture.

Then our flight was delayed and connections were a mess and we &quot;slept&quot; in the airport in Atlanta. Nice airport, too loud at night.

I&#039;ve tried to avoid your comments on The Cove and Cold Souls here, Craig, but I&#039;m a little dismayed at the sense you didn&#039;t particularly enjoy the latter. I was hoping it would be a little gem to kick off the fall. I still need to see The Cove and In the Loop.

I thought you might have enjoyed J&amp;J a bit more than it sounds like you did, but any regular movie-watcher would be forgiven for getting annoyed at the fractured storytelling. Kind of inspiring about blogging, though, eh?

K Bowen, I&#039;ve been quietly curious about The Time Traveler&#039;s Wife and will take your experience into account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notorious. </p>
<p>Just had to say it again, as I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s come up in the WC every week for like the last month. And I still haven&#8217;t seen it.</p>
<p>Back from gallivanting in Boston and NH. Is anybody familiar with Boston, besides k? That place has really changed quite a bit in the last few years, construction-wise. Anyway, good times visiting friends and then a beautiful weekend and wedding at a house on Lake Winnipesaukee. </p>
<p>On the way back to the airport we had a few hours to kill and, naturally, went to the movies. It was great fun going to the Kendall Square Cinema in Cambridge again. We saw Afghan Star, which was a much more straightforward story than I expected but still an interesting glimpse into contemporary Afghan culture.</p>
<p>Then our flight was delayed and connections were a mess and we &#8220;slept&#8221; in the airport in Atlanta. Nice airport, too loud at night.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to avoid your comments on The Cove and Cold Souls here, Craig, but I&#8217;m a little dismayed at the sense you didn&#8217;t particularly enjoy the latter. I was hoping it would be a little gem to kick off the fall. I still need to see The Cove and In the Loop.</p>
<p>I thought you might have enjoyed J&amp;J a bit more than it sounds like you did, but any regular movie-watcher would be forgiven for getting annoyed at the fractured storytelling. Kind of inspiring about blogging, though, eh?</p>
<p>K Bowen, I&#8217;ve been quietly curious about The Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife and will take your experience into account.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda Wilding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda Wilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I love (and also own) SHAMPOO. 

Forgive me my red blood. But Warren was unbelievably hot in that. Lee Grant and Jack Warden are both terrific. I really dig Goldie Hawn as well. She&#039;s a real adult woman in that film - clear eyed, mature. It&#039;s a million miles away from some of the ditzy blondes she has played. 

From the moment Jill finds that earring in her bed, she&#039;s steeling herself for the conversation that she knows she has to have with George. She really needs  to have all of the details on the table because then she&#039;ll know that he&#039;s &quot;incapable of love&quot; and she&#039;ll be able to stand it. 

Like he could even remember a minute fraction of all that...

joel&#039;s right. Julie is sublime. ALWAYS. She&#039;s fantastic in the film. But she&#039;s absolutely electric in her scenes with Warren. I love the very last sequence with them together. 

Jill was wrong about George. He could fall hard for someone. But It just wasn&#039;t her. However, Jackie was practical and she had waited a long time for Lester to be free from Felicia. As bad as I feel for George, Jackie did the right thing. 

The ending&#039;s perfect. Most people don&#039;t really change. And George got exactly what he deserved. 

Just to clarify...

Although I find Warren unbelievably attractive in his earlier work, I am certainly willing to give him his due as an artist. Just because he&#039;s gorgeous doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t take him seriously. 

I totally agree with everyone in this thread who adores him. 

Truthfully, there are better actors. But Warren possessed such incredible star quality and exceptional charisma that it hardly matters. What far outweighs that are his considerable talents as a producer and director.

Warren Beatty had an amazing impact on 20th century cinema. It&#039;s entirely possible that some of the unforgettable films that he&#039;s been in might not have been made without his guidance and influence. 

Everybody talked about the chicks. They should really have been discussing the career. 

He accomplished an enormous amount. It&#039;s something that shouldn&#039;t be taken lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I love (and also own) SHAMPOO. </p>
<p>Forgive me my red blood. But Warren was unbelievably hot in that. Lee Grant and Jack Warden are both terrific. I really dig Goldie Hawn as well. She&#8217;s a real adult woman in that film &#8211; clear eyed, mature. It&#8217;s a million miles away from some of the ditzy blondes she has played. </p>
<p>From the moment Jill finds that earring in her bed, she&#8217;s steeling herself for the conversation that she knows she has to have with George. She really needs  to have all of the details on the table because then she&#8217;ll know that he&#8217;s &#8220;incapable of love&#8221; and she&#8217;ll be able to stand it. </p>
<p>Like he could even remember a minute fraction of all that&#8230;</p>
<p>joel&#8217;s right. Julie is sublime. ALWAYS. She&#8217;s fantastic in the film. But she&#8217;s absolutely electric in her scenes with Warren. I love the very last sequence with them together. </p>
<p>Jill was wrong about George. He could fall hard for someone. But It just wasn&#8217;t her. However, Jackie was practical and she had waited a long time for Lester to be free from Felicia. As bad as I feel for George, Jackie did the right thing. </p>
<p>The ending&#8217;s perfect. Most people don&#8217;t really change. And George got exactly what he deserved. </p>
<p>Just to clarify&#8230;</p>
<p>Although I find Warren unbelievably attractive in his earlier work, I am certainly willing to give him his due as an artist. Just because he&#8217;s gorgeous doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t take him seriously. </p>
<p>I totally agree with everyone in this thread who adores him. </p>
<p>Truthfully, there are better actors. But Warren possessed such incredible star quality and exceptional charisma that it hardly matters. What far outweighs that are his considerable talents as a producer and director.</p>
<p>Warren Beatty had an amazing impact on 20th century cinema. It&#8217;s entirely possible that some of the unforgettable films that he&#8217;s been in might not have been made without his guidance and influence. </p>
<p>Everybody talked about the chicks. They should really have been discussing the career. </p>
<p>He accomplished an enormous amount. It&#8217;s something that shouldn&#8217;t be taken lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to compare to NxNW, but Heaven Can Wait rules. Grodin and Cannon were hilarious.</description>
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		<title>By: Alison Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also saw &lt;i&gt;Heaven Can Wait&lt;/i&gt; in the theater, with my parents and my brother. One of the most fun movie-going experiences we had as kids. It&#039;s a remake of &lt;i&gt;Here Comes Mr. Jordan&lt;/i&gt;, which my parents knew of course and made us watch the next time it played on Channel 9 on the afternoon movie (or one of those channels). I actually really like both film versions of the story. And &lt;i&gt;Heaven Can Wait&lt;/i&gt; has some of my favorite comic supporting actors of the time, like Charles Grodin, Dyan Cannon, Jack Warden. We also loved the theme music in my house. It played on TCM last week, along with &lt;i&gt;North By Northwest&lt;/i&gt;, as part of &quot;James Mason&quot; day in the Summer Under the Stars series. I think I probably mentioned it in last week&#039;s Watercooler, but it got upstaged by &lt;i&gt;North By Northwest&lt;/i&gt;. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also saw <i>Heaven Can Wait</i> in the theater, with my parents and my brother. One of the most fun movie-going experiences we had as kids. It&#8217;s a remake of <i>Here Comes Mr. Jordan</i>, which my parents knew of course and made us watch the next time it played on Channel 9 on the afternoon movie (or one of those channels). I actually really like both film versions of the story. And <i>Heaven Can Wait</i> has some of my favorite comic supporting actors of the time, like Charles Grodin, Dyan Cannon, Jack Warden. We also loved the theme music in my house. It played on TCM last week, along with <i>North By Northwest</i>, as part of &#8220;James Mason&#8221; day in the Summer Under the Stars series. I think I probably mentioned it in last week&#8217;s Watercooler, but it got upstaged by <i>North By Northwest</i>. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sartre, if/when Thick Of It hits legitimate US DVD, I&#039;ll be watching it with the volume up and the subtitles on.

Also: Huge fan of Heaven Can Wait. It was probably the first Beatty movie I saw in a theater. My folks took me. The movie theater is now a Circuit City I think...or whatever has become of Circuit City now that they went under.

Anyway, it&#039;s light, but almost perfect. Effortless and wholly entertaining.

KB, I hate to dump on a well-intentioned documentary, but in the end whether I agree with its argument or not, I don&#039;t think it did a great job of making its case. And frankly, if you want to think rationally about it, more damage is caused to the earth from beef production than dolphin killing. I acknowledge that as a meat eater. Plus, if more people saw how cows were treated before, during and after slaughter... but I digress.

I&#039;m curious about Time Travelers even though everything about it except the cast shouts &quot;this is not your cup of tea&quot;

You know Matthew, as I said above I went in assuming the Julie Powell/Amy Adams part would be empty, but I was surprised at how much there was to it. I&#039;m not sure if it could&#039;ve stood on its own or not, but I wish it had been developed more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sartre, if/when Thick Of It hits legitimate US DVD, I&#8217;ll be watching it with the volume up and the subtitles on.</p>
<p>Also: Huge fan of Heaven Can Wait. It was probably the first Beatty movie I saw in a theater. My folks took me. The movie theater is now a Circuit City I think&#8230;or whatever has become of Circuit City now that they went under.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s light, but almost perfect. Effortless and wholly entertaining.</p>
<p>KB, I hate to dump on a well-intentioned documentary, but in the end whether I agree with its argument or not, I don&#8217;t think it did a great job of making its case. And frankly, if you want to think rationally about it, more damage is caused to the earth from beef production than dolphin killing. I acknowledge that as a meat eater. Plus, if more people saw how cows were treated before, during and after slaughter&#8230; but I digress.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about Time Travelers even though everything about it except the cast shouts &#8220;this is not your cup of tea&#8221;</p>
<p>You know Matthew, as I said above I went in assuming the Julie Powell/Amy Adams part would be empty, but I was surprised at how much there was to it. I&#8217;m not sure if it could&#8217;ve stood on its own or not, but I wish it had been developed more.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to see JULIE &amp; JULIA this weekend and was surprised to see a friend of mine in it that I was in a show with once.  Had no idea he was in it so it was a pleasant surprise.

I enjoyed the film, although I thought Streep&#039;s portion was much more compelling and should have been its own film.  Adams is fine but there&#039;s not really much to her side of the story, it felt more like a typical romantic comedy set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to see JULIE &amp; JULIA this weekend and was surprised to see a friend of mine in it that I was in a show with once.  Had no idea he was in it so it was a pleasant surprise.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the film, although I thought Streep&#8217;s portion was much more compelling and should have been its own film.  Adams is fine but there&#8217;s not really much to her side of the story, it felt more like a typical romantic comedy set up.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious what people are going to think about The Time Traveler&#039;s Wife. I have to say, I got into it. I&quot;m not sure that was the predominate feeling in the theater, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious what people are going to think about The Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife. I have to say, I got into it. I&#8221;m not sure that was the predominate feeling in the theater, though.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Based on his experiences with the Flipper dolphins, O’Barry is an anti-dolphin captivity activist. The irony is that shows like Flipper and places like SeaWorld are what led people to fall in love with dolphins in the first place. &quot;

I had to yank this out of my review b/c it didn&#039;t flow, but it&#039;s right on. I didn&#039;t think that much of the film. And the whole thing didn&#039;t bother me as much as everyone else. Ultimately, it&#039;s not pretty but it&#039;s food production. IT&#039;s not supposed to be pretty.  Some cultures eat dogs. Some eat dolphins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Based on his experiences with the Flipper dolphins, O’Barry is an anti-dolphin captivity activist. The irony is that shows like Flipper and places like SeaWorld are what led people to fall in love with dolphins in the first place. &#8221;</p>
<p>I had to yank this out of my review b/c it didn&#8217;t flow, but it&#8217;s right on. I didn&#8217;t think that much of the film. And the whole thing didn&#8217;t bother me as much as everyone else. Ultimately, it&#8217;s not pretty but it&#8217;s food production. IT&#8217;s not supposed to be pretty.  Some cultures eat dogs. Some eat dolphins.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you’re an alpha male ponce and you’re going to destroy someone verbally, you want to make sure everyone within earshot gets the full meaning of it.&quot;

Beautifully said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you’re an alpha male ponce and you’re going to destroy someone verbally, you want to make sure everyone within earshot gets the full meaning of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Beautifully said.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you’ll likely find the accents in The Thick of It tricky at times too – particularly the Scottish ones of Peter Capaldi and Paul Higgins. Both of whom have the most hilariously scabrous lines.&quot;

I seemed to notice that the more vulgar and hilarious the line, the more they slowed down and enunciated their words, which was appreciated and probably not just for comedic effect. If you&#039;re an alpha male ponce and you&#039;re going to destroy someone verbally, you want to make sure everyone within earshot gets the full meaning of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you’ll likely find the accents in The Thick of It tricky at times too – particularly the Scottish ones of Peter Capaldi and Paul Higgins. Both of whom have the most hilariously scabrous lines.&#8221;</p>
<p>I seemed to notice that the more vulgar and hilarious the line, the more they slowed down and enunciated their words, which was appreciated and probably not just for comedic effect. If you&#8217;re an alpha male ponce and you&#8217;re going to destroy someone verbally, you want to make sure everyone within earshot gets the full meaning of it.</p>
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		<title>By: sartre</title>
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		<dc:creator>sartre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big Beatty fan too, Chuck.  I liked that he used his star power to take on substantial projects like Bonnie &amp; Clyde, The Parallax View, McCabe &amp; Mrs Miller, and Reds.  I’m guessing that Beatty was an important career role model for the likes of Depp and Pitt.  Although far less ambitious in comparison Heaven Can Wait is a hilarious and touching romantic comedy that firmly lodged itself in my heart.  It is remarkable how many of his films stand out as notable achievements despite the relatively few he made.  Shampoo, like The Graduate and Easy Rider, seems to so perfectly express in filmmaking terms the counter culture zeitgeist of its time.    

Joel and Craig, you’ll likely find the accents in The Thick of It tricky at times too – particularly the Scottish ones of Peter Capaldi and Paul Higgins.  Both of whom have the most hilariously scabrous lines.

&#039;I wish my weekends weren&#039;t so busy these days&#039;.  It&#039;s not easy having a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big Beatty fan too, Chuck.  I liked that he used his star power to take on substantial projects like Bonnie &amp; Clyde, The Parallax View, McCabe &amp; Mrs Miller, and Reds.  I’m guessing that Beatty was an important career role model for the likes of Depp and Pitt.  Although far less ambitious in comparison Heaven Can Wait is a hilarious and touching romantic comedy that firmly lodged itself in my heart.  It is remarkable how many of his films stand out as notable achievements despite the relatively few he made.  Shampoo, like The Graduate and Easy Rider, seems to so perfectly express in filmmaking terms the counter culture zeitgeist of its time.    </p>
<p>Joel and Craig, you’ll likely find the accents in The Thick of It tricky at times too – particularly the Scottish ones of Peter Capaldi and Paul Higgins.  Both of whom have the most hilariously scabrous lines.</p>
<p>&#8216;I wish my weekends weren&#8217;t so busy these days&#8217;.  It&#8217;s not easy having a life.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying not to toot my own horn, but yes, Joel Perverts does have it&#039;s own web site. May not be suitable for everyone.

Hedwig, I got to PE late like you and I liked it, although my comments were in a random Watercooler thread. I think the storytelling is erratic and I can concede some of the criticisms, but I really enjoyed it. I look forward to seeing it again, although I&#039;m not sure if I will get to it in a theater or not because it&#039;s shedding screens here fast. Blast, I wish my weekends weren&#039;t so busy these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying not to toot my own horn, but yes, Joel Perverts does have it&#8217;s own web site. May not be suitable for everyone.</p>
<p>Hedwig, I got to PE late like you and I liked it, although my comments were in a random Watercooler thread. I think the storytelling is erratic and I can concede some of the criticisms, but I really enjoyed it. I look forward to seeing it again, although I&#8217;m not sure if I will get to it in a theater or not because it&#8217;s shedding screens here fast. Blast, I wish my weekends weren&#8217;t so busy these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading your blog post on Public Enemies Hedwig and frankly I&#039;m kind of glad you fell for it even though it left me standing out in the cold.

I didn&#039;t comment, because I don&#039;t want to be a buzz kill and try and talk you out of it. Loving a movie is a wonderful thing and there&#039;s a lot to like about PE...I just wish I also fell in love with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading your blog post on Public Enemies Hedwig and frankly I&#8217;m kind of glad you fell for it even though it left me standing out in the cold.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t comment, because I don&#8217;t want to be a buzz kill and try and talk you out of it. Loving a movie is a wonderful thing and there&#8217;s a lot to like about PE&#8230;I just wish I also fell in love with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all: let me second all the love for &lt;i&gt;Annie Hall&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Third Man&lt;/i&gt;. You know what strikes me most every time I watch Annie Hall? Not only that it&#039;s more romantic than most (if not all) modern rom-coms, but that unlike them, the &quot;comedy&quot; part is prevalent, and it&#039;s still amazingly funny.

I saw &lt;i&gt;Crimes and Misdemeanors&lt;/i&gt; for the first time yesterday, speaking of Allen. I watched it with my parents (who were big Allen fans back in the day, but hadn&#039;t seen this one), and we all loved it. That one&#039;s funny too, and not just the &#039;funny&#039; half of it.

I&#039;m curious about &lt;i&gt;In the Loop&lt;/i&gt;


I saw &lt;i&gt;Public Enemies&lt;/i&gt; at last last week, and reading back the watercooler from the monday after its release, I liked it a lot more than, well, all of you, except maybe Dorothy and Ryan. I loved it, really, and I want to see it again. I&#039;m still mulling over why I loved it, because I agree with many criticisms leveled against it. My first attempt at reviewing it is on the blog. 

The other movie the parents and I still plan to see is &lt;i&gt;Tell No One&lt;/i&gt;, though i don&#039;t know if it&#039;ll happen. I&#039;m curious though.


Is there anyone else who can&#039;t wait for the start of Mad Men season three?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: let me second all the love for <i>Annie Hall</i> and <i>The Third Man</i>. You know what strikes me most every time I watch Annie Hall? Not only that it&#8217;s more romantic than most (if not all) modern rom-coms, but that unlike them, the &#8220;comedy&#8221; part is prevalent, and it&#8217;s still amazingly funny.</p>
<p>I saw <i>Crimes and Misdemeanors</i> for the first time yesterday, speaking of Allen. I watched it with my parents (who were big Allen fans back in the day, but hadn&#8217;t seen this one), and we all loved it. That one&#8217;s funny too, and not just the &#8216;funny&#8217; half of it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about <i>In the Loop</i></p>
<p>I saw <i>Public Enemies</i> at last last week, and reading back the watercooler from the monday after its release, I liked it a lot more than, well, all of you, except maybe Dorothy and Ryan. I loved it, really, and I want to see it again. I&#8217;m still mulling over why I loved it, because I agree with many criticisms leveled against it. My first attempt at reviewing it is on the blog. </p>
<p>The other movie the parents and I still plan to see is <i>Tell No One</i>, though i don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;ll happen. I&#8217;m curious though.</p>
<p>Is there anyone else who can&#8217;t wait for the start of Mad Men season three?</p>
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		<title>By: jennybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just going to take a sec to chuckle at the phrase &quot;Joel perverts has its own website...&quot;

(giggle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just going to take a sec to chuckle at the phrase &#8220;Joel perverts has its own website&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>(giggle)</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://livingincinema.com/2009/08/09/the-watercooler-the-cove-the-chef-and-the-cold-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-76768</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Film Forum Sam, You The Living leaves tomorrow. Did you ever sit down and watch the UK DVD you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Film Forum Sam, You The Living leaves tomorrow. Did you ever sit down and watch the UK DVD you have?</p>
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