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		<title>Comment on Review: Hancock (2008) *** by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Craig and all LIC devotees:

    Have a wonderful 4th of July weekend, whether you are enjoying barbeque goodies are sitting in a dark, air-conditioned theatre!</description>
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<p>    Have a wonderful 4th of July weekend, whether you are enjoying barbeque goodies are sitting in a dark, air-conditioned theatre!</p>
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		<title>Comment on LAFF 2008: Day 10 - Part 3 by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander's essay above, where is tackles the ongoing issue of art and film criticism is simply magnificent!  And Jeff's essay under it is exceptional as well.  I enjoyed reading both immensely and can evince agreement with the lion's share of the contentions.

     Alexander, as far as your film professor thinking CITIZEN KANE is vastly overated, apparently he didn't read Pauline Kael!  LOL!  Actually, years back a professor in a graduate film course made that same case with RENOIR'S LA REGLE DU JEU, a position that disturbs me to this day.  You must ask yourself though if these positions are not sincere but a kind of exhibitionist behavior.  It's similar in a sense to the notorious but brilliant critic John Simon, who, while toasting Ingmar Bergman to the heavens, thought Godard was comparable to "masturbation on the screen."
     I agree with you on Kurosawa (and disagree with your professor) but I must tell you that I rate Ozu and Mizoguchi higher.  Maybe it's my love for humanism, but the latter two, by disavowing the epic spectaculars have concentrated an dramas to reach the very essence of one's soul---yes Kurosawa had IKIRU in this sense---but the other two has abody of work that addressed itself exclusively to teh human condition...........hence, I would pose that Mizoguchi's SANSHO THE BALIFF (Sansho Dayu) and Ozu's TOKYO STORY are the two greatest films in the history of Japanese cinema(and world cinema for that matter), two altogether shattering works that are just about life-changing.  I will never forget where I was and how I reacted when I saw both.  It's simular to what Nick Plowman said a few days ago about being teary eyed and numb, but these reactions do last a lifetime.  Kurosawa of course has RAN, RASHOMON, SEVEN SAMURAI, THRONE OF BLOOD, HIGH AND LOW and others that are in the ranks of the masterpieces of world cinema, which the other two have gems liek LATE SPRING, AN AUTUMN AFTERNOON, UGETSU and THE STORY OF THE LATE CHRYSANTHEMUMS as well as others that qualify.  As of late I have also raised Mikio Naruse, Kon Ichikawa, Kaneto Shindo, Masaki Kobayashi on the list of greatest Japanese directors.
     This may well be the most fascinating of all nationalistic cinemas, even at least on par with the French.

     My favorite film of the new millenium is Haynes' FAR FROM HEAVEN, but even that masterpiece, has some some resistance from you guys.  I think that years down the road it will be regarded as such, but we will see.  The entire argument above about the essence of what art is still must have an afterward that evinces the concept that "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder."
     In art this often trumps perceptions of what one thinks is truly exceptional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander&#8217;s essay above, where is tackles the ongoing issue of art and film criticism is simply magnificent!  And Jeff&#8217;s essay under it is exceptional as well.  I enjoyed reading both immensely and can evince agreement with the lion&#8217;s share of the contentions.</p>
<p>     Alexander, as far as your film professor thinking CITIZEN KANE is vastly overated, apparently he didn&#8217;t read Pauline Kael!  LOL!  Actually, years back a professor in a graduate film course made that same case with RENOIR&#8217;S LA REGLE DU JEU, a position that disturbs me to this day.  You must ask yourself though if these positions are not sincere but a kind of exhibitionist behavior.  It&#8217;s similar in a sense to the notorious but brilliant critic John Simon, who, while toasting Ingmar Bergman to the heavens, thought Godard was comparable to &#8220;masturbation on the screen.&#8221;<br />
     I agree with you on Kurosawa (and disagree with your professor) but I must tell you that I rate Ozu and Mizoguchi higher.  Maybe it&#8217;s my love for humanism, but the latter two, by disavowing the epic spectaculars have concentrated an dramas to reach the very essence of one&#8217;s soul&#8212;yes Kurosawa had IKIRU in this sense&#8212;but the other two has abody of work that addressed itself exclusively to teh human condition&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..hence, I would pose that Mizoguchi&#8217;s SANSHO THE BALIFF (Sansho Dayu) and Ozu&#8217;s TOKYO STORY are the two greatest films in the history of Japanese cinema(and world cinema for that matter), two altogether shattering works that are just about life-changing.  I will never forget where I was and how I reacted when I saw both.  It&#8217;s simular to what Nick Plowman said a few days ago about being teary eyed and numb, but these reactions do last a lifetime.  Kurosawa of course has RAN, RASHOMON, SEVEN SAMURAI, THRONE OF BLOOD, HIGH AND LOW and others that are in the ranks of the masterpieces of world cinema, which the other two have gems liek LATE SPRING, AN AUTUMN AFTERNOON, UGETSU and THE STORY OF THE LATE CHRYSANTHEMUMS as well as others that qualify.  As of late I have also raised Mikio Naruse, Kon Ichikawa, Kaneto Shindo, Masaki Kobayashi on the list of greatest Japanese directors.<br />
     This may well be the most fascinating of all nationalistic cinemas, even at least on par with the French.</p>
<p>     My favorite film of the new millenium is Haynes&#8217; FAR FROM HEAVEN, but even that masterpiece, has some some resistance from you guys.  I think that years down the road it will be regarded as such, but we will see.  The entire argument above about the essence of what art is still must have an afterward that evinces the concept that &#8220;Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder.&#8221;<br />
     In art this often trumps perceptions of what one thinks is truly exceptional.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LAFF 2008: Day 10 - Part 3 by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel:

     If it isn't discovered, it's still a masterpiece, methinks.  Burnett's KILLER OF SHEEP is one of the truly great American films.  It towers over so many films that some of us (myself included) call great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel:</p>
<p>     If it isn&#8217;t discovered, it&#8217;s still a masterpiece, methinks.  Burnett&#8217;s KILLER OF SHEEP is one of the truly great American films.  It towers over so many films that some of us (myself included) call great.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LAFF 2008: Day 10 - Part 3 by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel:  INLAND EMPIRE is most assuredly a masterpiece, but regardless of the reservations that are being evinced here..........so is RETURN OF THE KING, which ironically enough (in addition to all those Oscars) was named best film of the year by the New York Film Critics Circle.  It is one of the great films of teh new millenium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel:  INLAND EMPIRE is most assuredly a masterpiece, but regardless of the reservations that are being evinced here&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.so is RETURN OF THE KING, which ironically enough (in addition to all those Oscars) was named best film of the year by the New York Film Critics Circle.  It is one of the great films of teh new millenium.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Hancock (2008) *** by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"it's a difficult tight rope to walk"

    Craig, I think you still have MAN ON WIRE in your subconscious!  LOL!!!  But there could be a lot of worse things on your mind at this point!

    As always, an eloquent piece........I unloaded my wife and five kids at a multiplex in Clifton, about 15 minutes from the arthouse theatre where I saw the most accomplished Czech film BEAUTY IN TROUBLE.  My wife and kids claim they really enjoyed HANCOCK, and they were relating many of the segments to me on the way home.  I'm very happy they liked it, but I vowed since it released that I would decline on seeing it.

    Although you have now downgraded your opinion of it, you are basically saying here is that is tolerable entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it&#8217;s a difficult tight rope to walk&#8221;</p>
<p>    Craig, I think you still have MAN ON WIRE in your subconscious!  LOL!!!  But there could be a lot of worse things on your mind at this point!</p>
<p>    As always, an eloquent piece&#8230;&#8230;..I unloaded my wife and five kids at a multiplex in Clifton, about 15 minutes from the arthouse theatre where I saw the most accomplished Czech film BEAUTY IN TROUBLE.  My wife and kids claim they really enjoyed HANCOCK, and they were relating many of the segments to me on the way home.  I&#8217;m very happy they liked it, but I vowed since it released that I would decline on seeing it.</p>
<p>    Although you have now downgraded your opinion of it, you are basically saying here is that is tolerable entertainment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Six Down, Six to Go by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my top ten list, but I will resist doing it numerically.  I will wait until December or early January to do that, although I love high drama and respect everyone who has done that on this thread.

     The Dutchess of Langleais (France)
     The Edge of Heaven  (Turkey/Germany)
     The Visitor (USA)
     WALL-E  (USA)
     Alexandre  (Russia)
     Reprise  (Norway)
     My Blueberry Nights  (USA)
     The Band's Visit  (Israel)
     In Bruges   (UK)
     When Was the Last Time You Saw Your Father (UK)

      The following films push very close to the 10 best list, and (some) might actually make it on another day, meaning they are very much still in contention for the final list in December:

     My Father My Lord  (Israel)
     Encounters At The End of the World (USA)
     Mongol  (Russia)
     Beauty in Trouble  (Czechoslovakia)
     Paranoid Park  (USA)
    The Unforeseen  (USA)
    Roman de Gare   (France)
    Son of Rambow  (UK)
    Chop Shop  (USA)
    Kung Fu Panda  (USA)

    Ari, I am definitely on your page with both of those, and THE DUTCHESS is a strong contender for my #1 at this point, and Alexander, I simply cannot shake the Sokorov--it has a great deal of emotional power, and its beautifully made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my top ten list, but I will resist doing it numerically.  I will wait until December or early January to do that, although I love high drama and respect everyone who has done that on this thread.</p>
<p>     The Dutchess of Langleais (France)<br />
     The Edge of Heaven  (Turkey/Germany)<br />
     The Visitor (USA)<br />
     WALL-E  (USA)<br />
     Alexandre  (Russia)<br />
     Reprise  (Norway)<br />
     My Blueberry Nights  (USA)<br />
     The Band&#8217;s Visit  (Israel)<br />
     In Bruges   (UK)<br />
     When Was the Last Time You Saw Your Father (UK)</p>
<p>      The following films push very close to the 10 best list, and (some) might actually make it on another day, meaning they are very much still in contention for the final list in December:</p>
<p>     My Father My Lord  (Israel)<br />
     Encounters At The End of the World (USA)<br />
     Mongol  (Russia)<br />
     Beauty in Trouble  (Czechoslovakia)<br />
     Paranoid Park  (USA)<br />
    The Unforeseen  (USA)<br />
    Roman de Gare   (France)<br />
    Son of Rambow  (UK)<br />
    Chop Shop  (USA)<br />
    Kung Fu Panda  (USA)</p>
<p>    Ari, I am definitely on your page with both of those, and THE DUTCHESS is a strong contender for my #1 at this point, and Alexander, I simply cannot shake the Sokorov&#8211;it has a great deal of emotional power, and its beautifully made.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Six Down, Six to Go by Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, now I'm on the other side of the coin with THE ORPHANAGE which I saw early in the year at Manhattan's Landmark.  I felt it was a pale imitation of PAN'S LABYRINTH---pretentious and predictable.  But I know it does have its adherents and I respect that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, now I&#8217;m on the other side of the coin with THE ORPHANAGE which I saw early in the year at Manhattan&#8217;s Landmark.  I felt it was a pale imitation of PAN&#8217;S LABYRINTH&#8212;pretentious and predictable.  But I know it does have its adherents and I respect that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LAFF 2008: Day 10 - Part 3 by Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jeff. Still not having seen the extended cut of The Return of the King is a fault I will correct when I get around to seeing Jackson's whole trilogy in one viewing in the near future. I do wish Lee's scene had made it to the theatrical cut but at least it will be a treat to finally see it in any event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jeff. Still not having seen the extended cut of The Return of the King is a fault I will correct when I get around to seeing Jackson&#8217;s whole trilogy in one viewing in the near future. I do wish Lee&#8217;s scene had made it to the theatrical cut but at least it will be a treat to finally see it in any event.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LAFF 2008: Day 10 - Part 3 by Jeff McM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff McM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee is in the long cut of ROTK for one scene, that's it. There are some nice additions (the ghost pirates don't feel quite as tacked-on) but nothing earth-shaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee is in the long cut of ROTK for one scene, that&#8217;s it. There are some nice additions (the ghost pirates don&#8217;t feel quite as tacked-on) but nothing earth-shaking.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LAFF 2008: Day 10 - Part 3 by Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, to me losing the Scouring was probably the biggest point against The Return of the King. 

I have to admit, I still haven't seen the extended cut of The Return of the King. I'm still sort of Middle-Earthed out, but I've been thinking about revisiting the trilogy and viewing all three extended cuts in one long day. Was Christopher Lee included in the extended cut of The Return of the King?

I agree that when viewed as one single epically long film, it fits that the concluding movement of The Lord of the Rings should take its time as we say goodbye to the characters and watch them take divergent paths beyond what would typically be seen as past plot point necessity. I have to admit, it was a little taxing when I saw it in the theatre by itself, but I imagine you're right, Joel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, to me losing the Scouring was probably the biggest point against The Return of the King. </p>
<p>I have to admit, I still haven&#8217;t seen the extended cut of The Return of the King. I&#8217;m still sort of Middle-Earthed out, but I&#8217;ve been thinking about revisiting the trilogy and viewing all three extended cuts in one long day. Was Christopher Lee included in the extended cut of The Return of the King?</p>
<p>I agree that when viewed as one single epically long film, it fits that the concluding movement of The Lord of the Rings should take its time as we say goodbye to the characters and watch them take divergent paths beyond what would typically be seen as past plot point necessity. I have to admit, it was a little taxing when I saw it in the theatre by itself, but I imagine you&#8217;re right, Joel.</p>
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